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  Any current bethelites here affected by the layoffs?

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  let us know how you feel.

  what is the general mood like over there?.

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  Any current bethelites here affected by the layoffs?

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  let us know how you feel.

  what is the general mood like over there?.

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  stillAwitness

  rotflmao!!!
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  Any current bethelites here affected by the layoffs?

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  let us know how you feel.

  what is the general mood like over there?.

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  Come on, I know you are out there.

  Let us know how you feel. What is the general mood like over there?
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  Hint of disillusionment among bethelites regarding downsizing?

  by watch the tower in

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  here is an email i got from a jw friend regarding the downsizing.. can you sense the uneasiness in the last part of the message?.

  "bros vandewall, jaracz, pierce and weaver gave a talk.

  to the bethelites after the watchtower study monday.

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  So what happens? They get sent home?

  According to them they get "reassigned" as a blessing from Jehovah. But for all practical purposes yes, you are right.
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  Hint of disillusionment among bethelites regarding downsizing?

  by watch the tower in

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  here is an email i got from a jw friend regarding the downsizing.. can you sense the uneasiness in the last part of the message?.

  "bros vandewall, jaracz, pierce and weaver gave a talk.

  to the bethelites after the watchtower study monday.

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  There are other threads here that say between 1200-1500. That's about 20%-30% of the bethelites. It's a huge downsize.
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  Hint of disillusionment among bethelites regarding downsizing?

  by watch the tower in

  1. watchtower
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  here is an email i got from a jw friend regarding the downsizing.. can you sense the uneasiness in the last part of the message?.

  "bros vandewall, jaracz, pierce and weaver gave a talk.

  to the bethelites after the watchtower study monday.

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  Here is an email I got from a JW friend regarding the downsizing.

  Can you sense the uneasiness in the last part of the message?

  "Bros VanDeWall, Jaracz, Pierce and Weaver gave a talk
  to the Bethelites after the Watchtower Study Monday
  night.

  They wanted everyone to be there so they made an
  announcement ahead of time.

  The emphasis is being put more on the field and they
  are going to start to drastically reduce the number of
  Bethelites.

  Some will be sent to Gilead, some as sub CO's some as
  CO's. They asked them to please accept the assignment
  because it is as if it's a Bethel assignment.

  Some will be sent out as Special pioneers, some as
  foreign Bethelites but not as BIFS, permanent Bethel
  assignments.

  The older ones too will be able to do telephone
  witnessing in Bethel and those who can will be going
  out in service one day a week. What a loving
  arrangement. Sounds exciting!

  Bro. Jaracz says now get a good nights rest and be
  ready to work tomorrow.
  Everyone laughed because they know they will be all
  night crying or thinking about the new arrangement.
  The chariot is changing directions right?"
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  JWs Speculations on the Paradise

  by FadingAway in

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  there was a thread started not too long ago about how jws feel what the paradise would entail.

  one thing i always wrestled with in my mind is that once the earth would be populated with perfect humans that procreation could cease.

  eventually the children would grow up and we would be able to associate with perfect adults.

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  Who wants to have a picnic with panda bears and lions for all of eternity?
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  OCTOBER 29, 1911- Russell's hanky panky headline in Brooklyn paper

  by watch the tower in

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  russell and wife maria, before divorce.

  pittsburg, october 27 - the suit for a separation brought by martha (sic)f. russell against charles taz russell, her husband, popularly known as pastor russell, who has just entered a libel suit against the brooklyn eagle, is remembered here as one of the most sensational court proceedings in the history of allegheny county.

  pastor russell's advertising methods had already attracted a good deal of attention to himself, and while many referred to him as "the crank preacher of allegheny," his unusual lectures and effective publicity methods drew good-sized crowds to his bible house on arch street.

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  Pittsburg, October 27 - The suit for a separation brought by Martha (sic)F. Russell against Charles Taz Russell, her husband, popularly known as Pastor Russell, who has just entered a libel suit against The Brooklyn Eagle, is remembered here as one of the most sensational court proceedings in the history of Allegheny County.

  Pastor Russell's Advertising methods had already attracted a good deal of attention to himself, and while many referred to him as "the crank preacher of Allegheny," his unusual lectures and effective publicity methods drew good-sized crowds to his Bible House on Arch Street.

  When the fact that Pastor Russell's wife was suing him for a separation became public much general interest was aroused and the courtroom was thronged during the proceedings.

  The testimony which elicited the most comment concerned the relations of Pastor Russell with Rose Ball, a young woman stenographer employed by Pastor Russell in the Bible House on Arch Street. This testimony was given by Mrs. Russell on direct examination on Thursday, April 26, 1906. It was ruled out by the court on the ground that the incidents to which reference was made were said to have occurred on a date which precedes the dates mentioned in Mrs. Russell's bill of complaint. Pastor Russell recurred to the incidents when he went on the stand several days later, and gave his version of what had happened. Rose Ball was not called to the stand, as she left for Australia shortly before the case came to trial.

  The verbatim record of this testimony taken from the official report of the case on file in the office of the Prothonotary of Allegheny County is as follows:

  Q. I want you to tell us what your husband did in company with this woman Rose, in your presence and in your home.

  A. In the first place I considered it--(objected to and witness was not permitted to finish.)

  Q. Tell us what you saw and what he said was done.

  A. One evening he spent the evening downstairs and our library and bedroom were next to each other upstairs on the second floor, and I spent the evening downstairs reading, and I went upstairs about 10 o'clock to my room, and I supposed that: he was either in the library or had retired, and when I went up there I found that he was in neither place, and I stepped out in the hall, and I found that he was in his night robe, sitting beside Miss Ball's bed and she was in bed. On other occasions I found him going in there and I found she called him in and said she wasn't well and wanted him in, and I objected to this, and I said that it was highly improper, and I said: "We have people about the house, and what kind of a name will be attached in this house if you do that sort of thing?" and he got angry.

  Pastor's Wife Tells of His Alleged Nightly Visits

  Q. You state that you found him doing this at other times. How often after that?

  A. I found him a number of times; I don't remember how often.

  Q. In her room?

  A. Yes, sir. And I found him in the servant girl's room as well. and I found him locked in the servant girl's room.

  Q. Did he make any explanation why he was in the girl's room?

  A. No. He did not; he just got angry.

  Q. What did you say to him about this conduct and what did he say.

  A. I said to him, "We have a great work on our hands," and I said, "In this work you and I have to walk very circumspectly before the world and if you are going to do things like this, what will happen? Suppose you are all right, don't you suppose people will talk about things like this?" and I said, "I am not satisfied with it," and he said he wasn't going to be ruled by me. But I felt distressed about that.

  Q. What did Rose do at the Watch Tower.

  A. She attended to the correspondence.

  Q. Where was her desk with reference to the desk of Mr. Russell of the Watch Tower Society?

  A. It wasn't near his; it was in the office.

  Q. When would he go to the Watch Tower, in the morning?

  A. I don't remember; he generally went down alone.

  Q. Who would return with him?

  A. She came with him in the evening and they came about 11 o'clock and the young men that were in the office -- she was the only girl, and the young men would go home, and he wouldn't allow her to go home with them, and she must wait and always go with him.

  (Objected to.) Q. I want the mere fact, did this girl Rose go home with your husband?

  A. Yes, Sir.

  Q. What year was that?

  A. In the fall of 1894. (By Mr. Porter, attorney for the plaintiff.)

  Q. Did you state to your husband at this meeting any endearing terms?

  A. Yes, sir.

  Q. What were they?

  A. I said "She tells me that one evening you came home --" I asked her when did these things occur. I said to him, "She says they occurred down at the office when she stayed down there with him in the evening after the rest had gone, and at home at any time when I wasn't around."

  Q. Now, about the endearing terms?

  A. She said one evening when she came home with him, just as she got inside the hall, it was late in the evening, about 11 o'clock, he put his arms around her and kissed her. This was in the vestibule before they entered the hall, and he called her his little wife, but she said "I am not your wife." and he said "I will call you daughter, and a daughter has nearly all the privileges of a wife."

  Q. What other terms were used?

  A. Then he said, "I am like a jellyfish. I float around here and there. I touch this one and that one, and if she responds I take her to me, and if not, I float on to others"; and she wrote that out so that I could remember it for sure when I would speak to him about it. And he confessed that he said those things.

  Q. And the young men came home ahead of them?

  A. Yes, sir.

  Q. State to the court and jury what talk, if any, you had with this girl Rose, in regard to her relations with your husband, which you communicated to your husband?

  This question was objected to and it was changed to read as follows: Q. You are to tell what you stated to your husband that Rose had said and his reply to you.

  Mrs. Russell Says Girl Told Her of Pastor's Caresses.

  A. I told him that I had learned something that was very serious and I didn't tell him right away. I let a day elapse until I felt I had control of myself and could talk and then I told him that I had something very serious to tell him about this matter, and he said, "What is it?" and I said, "Rose has told me that you have been intimate with her, that you have been in the habit of hugging and kissing her and having her sit on your knee and fondling each other, and she tells me you bid her under no account to tell me, but she couldn't keep it any longer. She said if I was distressed about it she felt that she would have to come and make a confession to me, and she has done that. (By the court.)

  Q. What did he say?

  A. He tried to make light of it at first and I said, "Husband, you can't do that. I know the whole thing. She has told me straight and I know it to be true." Well, he said he was sorry; it was true, but he was sorry. He said he didn't mean any harm. I said, "I don't see how you could do an act like that without meaning harm."
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  Aliens/UFO's...Do You Believe In Them?

  by Legolas in

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  after reading another thread it got me thinking...how many here believe in aliens?

  have you ever seen a ufo?

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  As far as the govt hiding an alien body, the movie ET was based on a 1950's event where an alien "grey" entitiy was found and held captive. They named it EBE. I forgot what it stands for..E?? Biological Entity. You can read about the details in William Cooper's "Behold a pale horse".
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  Multiple Universes – are aliens actual “divine beings” of the Bible

  by zagor in

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  this is a topic i wanted to have a discussion about for quite some time but didnt know if anyone at all would be interested.

  there is quite a buzz in scientific community in last 10 years about real possibility that our universe is only one of say 10 to the power of 500 universes around all in their separate dimensions.

  such a notion is truly mind-boggling when you think of what the implications really are.

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  lego,

  I just posted a reply on another thread:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/104971/1.ashx

  It's a really brief summary of what i believe aliens are. It also reflects a lot of what's in the book as well.

  Another tremendous book is "Behold a Pale Horse" by William Cooper. I think he revealed a bit too much info since he was framed and "taken out" by the govt.